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Originally posted: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3443305/Britain-has-16-superheroes-patrolling-the-streets.html

By Chris Pollard
A WHOLE army of masked crusaders is fighting crime on Britain’s streets at night, The Sun can reveal.
At least 16 amateur super-heroes have been identified.
They have names such as Vague, Swift, Black Arrow, Lionheart and Terrorvision. But researcher Tea Krulos said many more operated in the shadows. He said: “Britain has more amateur superheroes than you’d guess.”
We told last month how chubby bank worker Scott Cooke, 26 – known as The Statesman but dubbed The Phan-tum by The Sun – secretly dons a Union Jack outfit to fight crime in Birmingham.
US author Krulos has investigated such comic-style heroes for years in the States. And he said: “In America we have many, but they tend to seek publicity.
“In Britain it is a very secretive underground society. They do all they can to avoid publicity and communicate online. Whole forums are set up and often they operate in groups. I have spoken extensively to The Statesman, and he takes what he does very seriously.”
Krulos – writing a book on superheroes – said he had spoken to six UK crusaders, and was trailing ten more. He said: “These are normal people wanting adventure and to improve communities. They achieve more than you’d think.”
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Originally posted: http://www.semana.com/noticias-gente/luchar-justicia/152468.aspx
A phenomenon in the streets of the various cities, walking the line between reality and fiction. These are the Superheroes, 100’s of average citizens who fight against evil, dressed in trousers, capes, and mask.
It’s one o’clock in the morning, two drunken gang members are exchanging insults, punches and kicks in a park in Milwaukee, USA. Then suddenly someone who was hidden behind the trees steps out of the shadows and shouts “Stop what you are doing!” The two youths remain frozen, suspended staring at the man dressed in black wearing a red mask with “W” on his chest, who with hands on his waist, threatening to intervene if they don’t stop the fight. The scene isn’t from a comic nor from a movie, it’s any day in the life of “The Watchman,” an average, big guy who is currently 35yrs old, who by day works in an office and by night walks the streets of his neighborhood to “fight against crime”.
Watchman (vigilante) is a part of a movement known as the Real Life Super Heroes, a well organized 400 mortal men and women, who, like the business card for www.reallifesuperheroes.com says, an internet page that is used to connect them, choose everyday to mark a difference. They are not crackpots in costumes as it might seem at first glance. These modern heroes are our neighbors, our friends, our family members. They are artist, musicians, athletes and yes, politicians. The majority patrol the streets of their cities looking for thieves, rapist, and drug traffickers. Others hand out food to homeless, donate toys to sick children in hospitals or hand out copies of the constitution to transients so that they learn about their country. There are also others who care for prostitutes; protect drunken women in bars to prevent men from taking advantage of them.
All of them create their identities and costumes, which generally include a cape and mask. They also have their accessories to help them complete their missions, like a 1st responder’s first aid kit, pepper spray to drive off bad guys, and a cellular phone to call police in case of problems. Some go out alone and others in groups similar to the Justice League of Superman, Flash, the Green Lantern and company.
“It’s an incredible movement” a week ago commented Dark Guardian, superhero and administrator of reallifesuperheroes.com. “We help people, and fight crime, and do it with our own money”. Chirs Pollak is the real name of this New York teacher of martial arts who at night patrols the city to look for drug dealers who work in the parks. Chris feels he was a kid with lots of problems until he started to read comics and discovered what he wanted to be like the protagonist in these adventures. And so he bought a bullet proof vest, cut proof gloves, boots, shades, flashlight, and a megaphone, and went out to pursue delinquents.
The phenomenon of the superheroes that don’t fly and don’t have x-ray vision has grown during the last few years so much so that it has expanded into some European countries. In England, for example, the famous Statesman, a banker who cleans up the streets of London, and says the he has helped the police catch more than a few bad guys. It’s has been four years since publications like The New York Time or the magazine Rolling Stone started to publish articles on this theme. At that time it was calculated that there were approximately a 100. Two years later there was talk of 250, and today they say 400. Though they admit it is almost impossible to get an accurate number, for many youths join the movement week after week.
These superheroes of flesh and bone have become so famous that they already have a documentary movie, which premiered at the most recent Sundance film festival. They have also received photographical exposure thanks to Peter Tangen, who fell in love with the stories like that of Knight Owl, an anonymous EMT who served in Iraq and who after becoming a superhero decided to write a manual so that his colleagues could learn from firsthand knowledge. Peter has also covered the life of Mr. Xtreme, who after he was abused as a child decided that he needed to protect the defenseless and had been patrolling for some ten years now. Also that of Life, a film producer who every night wears his tie, mask and hat to food, soap, shavers and tooth brushes to the homeless in New York.
“I believe that the phenomenon has grown due to interest in comics, movies and TV series base on the theme. Also because many of us want to change the world and since we have always seen superheroes as powerful beings who can get the job done, who we try to emulate” commented Life to this publication. He organizes meetings for superheroes through the net site www.superheroesananymous.com, and who real name is Chaim Lazaros. “The Heroes have always been there, but only started to network with each other after the “hero boom” on the internet. In 2007 I united them to make a documentary and complete my transformation into one of them.”
Tea Krulos is an independent journalist who writes a blog called “justice seekers without superpowers,” and is finishing a book on the same theme he’s planning to call “Heroes in the Night”. Krulos says that the first real superheroes he found during his investigation was active during the 70’s. He was a fat man with a beard who was called Captain Sticky, and he was devoted to uncovering scandals. Years later, other appeared. Like the Mexican born Superbarrio, an ex-masked luchador who defended the housing rights of those injured in the earth quake of 1985 who participated in the presidential elections. Then the phenomenon kept growing until it became what it is today.
“One of the most amazing things about these superheroes is the range of people who participate in this is varied. There are rich, poor, Christians, Atheist” said Krulos about a week ago. But when they put on their outfit they are all the same. They see the wrong that is happening and say this nigh I will go out to help instead of staying home and watching TV.
But not all of them have had good luck in this. Like Dark Guardian who accounts to being threaten and having a gun pointed at him, even though nothing has happen to him yet. The British Newspaper, The Times, published a few years back a story about Mr. Invisible, a Californian who took years getting ready to hit the streets. When he finally did, he found himself confronted with a man yelling at his wife. He wanted to intervene, but the woman punch him in the face and broke his nose. Then he sat on the sidewalk and a beggar urinated on him. The publication commented, what has been done to confirm his invisibility.
For other the hardest part isn’t confronting delinquent but confessing to their love ones that they are superheroes. They explain that not everyone likes the idea of them going out dressed up at night. “Hey today isn’t Halloween!” someone yells at Watchman, he takes it with a sense of humor, it’s precisely his look that has saved him. “In general, Gang members get distracted with my outfit”, he says. “They laugh and they ask me what the hell I am. In a short while they forget they were fighting or causing problems”. And so he is satisfied that he completes his mission to “Make the world a safer place”.

Originally posted:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1359093/Birmingham-superhero-Britains-Kick-Ass-banker-The-Statesman-fights-crime.html
By Rob Cooper

A superhero who works as a banker by day and fights crime on the streets as ‘The Statesman’ at night has been unmasked as a 26-year-old Fiat Punto driver who takes his washing home to his mother.
Scott Cooke is a Santander worker who claims he has stopped a break in and helped arrest a drug dealer.
His mother Dawn, 47, admitted she had no idea her 16 stone son was dressing up as a superhero at night and going out on the streets.
She thought Scott, who takes his washing home to her, might have been out drinking.
And his girlfriend Keri Whip, 26, was also oblivious to the superhero fanatic’s late night antics.
Dressed in a Union Flag T-shirt with a black Zorro-style mask covering his eyes ‘The Statesman’ is out four nights each week – and had been telling his partner he was playing poker.
He follows in the footsteps of the hit film Kick Ass, in which a teenage geek dresses as a superhero but ends up way over his head.
His mother, from Redditch, Worcestershire, told The Sun: ‘My only fear is that Scott might get knocked about by troublemakers. I know he got beaten by drug dealers a few months ago but he didn’t say a lot about it.
‘He was probably in his costume at the time. Walking a city centre dressed like that takes guts. There’s an awful lot that boy has to sit down and tell me.


He can look after himself but he’s a big softie to me.’
The former soldier in the Territorial Army lives in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, with his girlfriend Keri who he has been dating for ten years.
Scott has swapped cutting-edge gadgets for a first aid kit, a torch to startle burglars and a notepad for writing down important information. A cheap mobile phone in case he needs to call support of the police completes his arsenal.
Last month, it emerged Phoenix Jones from the U.S. had been dubbed the real-life Kick Ass after appointing himself as masked guardian of a Seattle suburb.
Before his identity was revealed, Scott said: ‘I work for a large bank dealing with savings and investments. All day I look at numbers and percentages and work out how to make people richer.

‘It’s not a popular occupation but I like to think I make up for this by going out at night and trying to do something to help everybody.’
He claims he helped Police Community Support Officers (PCSOs) to capture a drug dealer – and sometimes teams up with three other superheroes to work together.
He added: ‘We were patrolling London together at 3am one night and heard a commotion. We saw a huge guy running across Trafalgar Square away from two PCSOs.
‘They were shouting at him but he wasn’t going to stop so we threw off our overcoats and chased him. We caught up with him and pinned him down until the officers arrived.
‘They told us he had jumped bail and they had seen him throwing away packets of drugs as he ran from them.
‘That was the first time what I do really felt justified. The police wagon turned up and took him away and it felt good. The PCSOs thought it was great. They loved it.’
Explaining his superhero name, he said: ‘A Statesman is an ambassador, a diplomat and somebody who delivers a message. Something that’s meaningful and positive, and that’s something I feel that represents what I do.
‘I want to do something that’s positive for the country. I hope some people will look at me and want to do it themselves. If it’s just one person then it’s a success. As long as I’m achieving anything, I will keep doing this.’
West Midlands Police refused to comment.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1359772/Birmingham-superhero-Scott-Cooke-unmasked-Fiat-Punto-driver.html#ixzz1ErCwfMPb

Originally posted: http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/02/23/britain-real-life-super-hero-the-statesman/
By Chris Sims
Here at ComicsAlliance, we’ve been keeping tabs on the “Real Life Super-Heroes” for a while, chronicling the triumphs of Phoenix Jones, Guardian of Seattle and the somewhat-less-than-triumphs of Tennesee’s Viper, and today, there’s a new champion of justice walking the streets: The Statesman, stalwart defender of Birmingham, UK!

And not only is he the perfect candidate for inclusion in a worldwide anti-crime organization, should America’s real-life super-heroes ever decide to follow Batman’s lead and franchise into Phoenix Jones, Guardian of Seattle, Incorporated, he’s also the first real life super-hero to actually display evidence of metahuman powers.

And by that, I am of course referring to his totally sweet facial hair.
Yes, he might look like what would happen if Captain Britain forsaked his job as mystical protector of the British Isles in favor of taking a position as head security guard at the mall — and actually, why aren’t there more super-heroes rocking cargo pants? — but that is a set of mutton chops that brooks no sass from ne’er-do-wells.
Especially since the combination of the Motörhead ‘stache and the latex domino mask makes him look like a strange transporter-accident combination of the Comedian from Watchmen and Lemmy Kilmister:
If that’s not something that’s going to intimidate the criminal element, I don’t know what is.
And according to his profile in London’s Daily Mail, he’s already mastered the most important lessons for any super-hero, following the rules set down by comics: He has a boring day job that requires him to wear a suit (just like Superman!), he lies to his girlfriend about his whereabouts while he’s out fighting crime (just like Spider-Man!), and he somehow expects to maintain a secret identity despite having an extremely distinctive beard (just like Green Arrow!). He even wears a utility belt that contains his crime-fighting equipment, including a flashlight, a Sharpie and a little notebook (just like Batman!) (sort of!).
So for the English criminal community — which I believe is made up almost entirely of Bullet Tooth Tony and Lord Voldemort — watch out! The Statesman is on patrol with a mission to end crime!
Just so long as crime takes place betwen 7 PM and midnight. The dude’s got work tomorrow, you know?

Originally posted: http://www.businessinsider.com/banker-superman-the-statesman-2011-2
By Katya Wachtel
In the cult comic series Batman (and in the films spawned from the comic) the man behind the mask is Bruce Wayne — a billionaire investor by day, and of course, a crime-fighting rogue by night.
While the protagonist in this story is no billionaire, he is also a financier by day and a “superhero” by night.
In moonlight and masked, there is a crime-fighting man in Birmingham in the UK known as “The Statesmen.”
In daylight and suited, he is just a regular banker, according to the Daily Mail.
This unnamed banker is not the first regular guy to turn himself into a real-life superhero; last month a character — in both senses of the word — called Phoenix Jones began patrolling the streets of Seattle to fight crime.
The Birmingham banker told the paper he has “foiled a drug dealer and prevented burglaries.” His disguise includes a Union Flag T-shirt, combat pants, military boots and a black Zorro-style mask. He wears a utility belt, and carries with him a first aid kit, “a torch to startle burglars,” a notepad and a cheap mobile phone (to call for back-up, should he need it).
And according to the Mail, one of the reasons he has become The Statesman, is to counter his life as a banker:
I work for a large bank dealing with savings and investments. All day I look at numbers and percentages and work out how to make people richer. It’s not a popular occupation but I like to think I make up for this by going out at night and trying to do something to help everybody.
The banker has been boxing since he was 11, and was also in the army.
And why “The Statesman”? Because, “a Statesman is an ambassador, a diplomat and somebody who delivers a message. Something that’s meaningful and positive, and that’s something I feel that represents what I do,” he said.
For more crazy details about The Statesman’s escapades, go to the Daily Mail >

Originally posted:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1359093/Birmingham-superhero-Britains-Kick-Ass-banker-The-Statesman-fights-crime.html
By Daily Mail Reporter

In his suit and working as a banker by day, this man looks an unlikely superhero – but by night, he becomes ‘The Statesmen’ and fights crime on Britain’s streets.
Dressed in a Union Flag T-shirt and with a black Zorro-style mask covering his eyes, he claims even his girlfriend is in the dark about his nocturnal activities – which is hard to believe, especially given his distinctive facial hair.
He tells her he is out playing poker on the four nights a week when he is trying to keep an eye on the underbelly of Birmingham.
The Briton is the latest to follow in the footsteps of the hit film Kick Ass, in which a teenage geek dresses as a superhero but ends up way over his head.
Last month, it emerged Phoenix Jones from the U.S. had been dubbed the real-life Kick Ass after appointing himself as masked guardian of a Seattle suburb.
His British counterpart’s outfit compares somewhat unfavourably with the American’s but he claims to have foiled a drug dealer and prevented burglaries.
The former soldier in the Territorial Army, who wears a black mask, utility belt, Union Flag top, fingerless gloves, combat trousers and military boots, uses his skills as a trained pugilist.
And he shirks cutting-edge gadgets for a first aid kit, a torch to startle burglars and a notepad for writing down important information. A cheap mobile phone in case he needs to call support of the police completes his arsenal.
He said: ‘I work for a large bank dealing with savings and investments. All day I look at numbers and percentages and work out how to make people richer.

‘It’s not a popular occupation but I like to think I make up for this by going out at night and trying to do something to help everybody.’
His alter-ego sees him breaking up fights, stopping would-be burglars and feeding homeless people and he claims he sometimes teams up with three other superheroes to work together.
To keep attention off them, they hide their costumes under dark overcoats and burst out when their help is required.
He claims they helped Police Community Support Officers (PCSOs) to capture a drug dealer.
‘We were patrolling London together at 3am one night and heard a commotion. We saw a huge guy running across Trafalgar Square away from two PCSOs.
‘They were shouting at him but he wasn’t going to stop so we threw off our overcoats and chased him. We caught up with him and pinned him down until the officers arrived.
‘They told us he had jumped bail and they had seen him throwing away packets of drugs as he ran from them.
‘That was the first time what I do really felt justified. The police wagon turned up and took him away and it felt good. The PCSOs thought it was great. They loved it.’

Patrolling several times a week means The Statesman has to work hard to keep his secret safe from loved ones.
With my girlfriend, it helps that I have a lot of hobbies. I say I’m playing late-night poker matches with friends or watching a pay-per-view sports,’ he said.
When things turn violent on patrol, The Statesman is well prepared. ‘I’ve been boxing since I was 11 and I’m still training,’ he said. ‘It helps me to judge things and be reasonable.’
His first ‘incident’ on patrol came in April 2010 when he found two men trying to break into a builder’s merchants late at night.
He said: ‘It’s why I always carry a torch with me. People doing bad things don’t want to be seen and if you shine a good torch right at them and shout in a strong voice, it’s enough to stop them. As soon as I did it these two men simply ran away.’
He begins his Nightwatch at 7pm, after eating a good meal to keep him going. ‘I look at a map and just say “I want to make that area safe tonight”,’ he said.
‘While I am over that area, nothing bad is going to happen. You can’t change the entire city, but you can make one small part of it better each night. Even if it’s just for one or two people, then that’s a win.’
Explaining his superhero name, he said: ‘A Statesman is an ambassador, a diplomat and somebody who delivers a message. Something that’s meaningful and positive, and that’s something I feel that represents what I do.
‘I want to do something that’s positive for the country. I hope some people will look at me and want to do it themselves. If it’s just one person then it’s a success. As long as I’m achieving anything, I will keep doing this.’
West Midlands Police refused to comment.

SamaritanCitizen
PostSubject: Isn”t Good ”Ol Fashioned Beat ”em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Tue May 12, 2009 7:15 pm
This topic is a little heavy because while I’ve read a decent amount on you guys in the past solid hours of surfing the general philosophy is non-violence. (Which is good. I don’t what a whole bunch of vigilantes running around.) I don’t want to trap anybody in a what if scenario, but for people who do frequent ‘patrols’ some of you are bound to come across scenarios like the ones that I’m about to present…
At any rate, I’ve some questions about you fellas and gals. First off, wouldn’t there be a darker side to ya’lls work? Like, if you were patrolling the streets of Albequerque on a nightly round and noticed a rapist violating someone in an alleyway? Or a daily round of your suburban neighborhood caused you to be witness to a gang mugging in someones house? That is, through the window you see someone who’s life is seriously in danger from being severly assaulted.
Thanks guys, I look forward to your answers.
Dark Guardian
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Tue May 12, 2009 7:40 pm
I do what is necessary to defend myself and others
Moonlight Cicada
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Tue May 12, 2009 7:52 pm
If I seeing a violent crime being occured, I will do what would be expected of me, and that would be to help at all costs.
Big Simon
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Tue May 12, 2009 8:50 pm
There’s no doubt in my mind many of the people here would do something in any of those cases. While non-violence is the general tenor of what most of us believe, we also understand that there are certain situations which require immediate action, as opposed to waiting for the police to arrive after a call. Many of us are martially trained – though not all of us. I, myself, have no martial arts experience other than a bit of wrestling. But there are others here who have a tremendous amount of training. Some of us carry devices and weapons to help do what we do.
Me, personally, I’m not on the street, patrolling. But if I ran into a violent crime being committed? Yeah, I’d do what I could to stop it and protect the victims.
Clockodile
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Tue May 12, 2009 9:35 pm
I have been involved in a crime where I was attacked.
Just use your head and keep your fists in front.
Moonlight Cicada
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Tue May 12, 2009 9:37 pm
Most people are predictable and clumsy when fighting. Very easy to call moves and catch off guard.
Clockodile
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Tue May 12, 2009 9:39 pm
I think out of all the people I know, there is only one that knows how to fight properly and could probably kick my ass.
Moonlight Cicada
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Tue May 12, 2009 9:42 pm
Exactly. Even if one overpowers you in strength, you could predict their movements, and strike first.
TheChaplain
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Tue May 12, 2009 10:11 pm
Only in dire situations.
winter knight
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Tue May 12, 2009 11:00 pm

Dark Guardian wrote:
I do what is necessary to defend myself and others

I second that… priority one: preserve life, render aid to victims, and serve and protect others.
Statesman
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Wed May 13, 2009 5:10 am
I believe it would be short sighted of me to go out of my front door with my mind set on violence.
I believe that most conflicts can be resolved with confidence, sense and a feel for what is fair.
I will never allow harm to come to myself or any innocent, and will fight until I fall in defence of the good.
But in my experience, prevention trumps punishment every time.
Big Simon
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Wed May 13, 2009 9:16 am

Statesman wrote:
I believe it would be short sighted of me to go out of my front door with my mind set on violence.
I belive that most conflicts can be resolved with confidence, sense and a feel for what is fair.
I will never allow harm to come to myself or any innocent, and will fight until I fall in defence of the good.
But in my experience, prevention trumps punishment every time.

Exactly. If we can put the problem to a stop before it happens, we’ve done everyone a service. And we do a disservice to the people we claim to serve if we go out spoiling for a fight. The mindset is that of the defender, not the vanquisher. Like Hunter Outlaw, however, I agree that violence is sometimes necessary. It’s best if you have some experience, and some skill in fighting, even if you haven’t taken a single martial arts course. There’s value in knowing what you’re body is capable of, and what you are going to be able to accomplish, and the confidence imparted is priceless.
As the old adage goes, “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure”. A little effort expended to avoid a fight will serve you and the community better than going in, fists flying, but if there’s no other option, it’s best to know what the hell you’re doing.
Statesman
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Wed May 13, 2009 9:25 am
I’d go a little further, even- our duty to the world is to make it a better, safer place for people to live in.
With excessive aggression, we become another thing to fear on the streets rather than a source of confidence, and inspiration.
Hunter
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Wed May 13, 2009 11:08 am
Big Simon, I think you meant Outlaw, not Hunter.
Big Simon
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Wed May 13, 2009 11:41 am

Hunter wrote:
Big Simon, I think you meant Outlaw, not Hunter.

Well, of course I did. I’m just sometimes not quick enough to catch these things, myself. *chuckles*
nemo2000
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Wed May 13, 2009 12:41 pm
Hey Chaps & Chappettes,
I am with Zen on this one, prevention is always better than the cure, in tactical terms it is known as “The Combat of the Collective Conscience”.
The best way to fight crime is to work to re~unite fractured communities, by opening new channels of communications and aiding in building bridges amongst them.
Active R.L.S.H. do this by being a visable figure head that is prepared to do lots of minor good deeds to show it can be done and inspire other members of there communities to get out there and do the same.
This techqnique of promoting the “The Collective Conscience” within broken communities has been scientifically proven time and time again to be the single most effective way of combating crime ridden communities quickly and effectively.
Sure most of us will come to the assistance of any Citizen being abused or attacked, but then again so would mostl civic minded citizens we are only doing the same as they would.
It is in repairing these fractured communities that we as R.L.S.H. can really make a big difference to them.
Basically quod erat demonstrandum, de oppresso liber et fortis est veritas.
Kind Regards, Everyone ~ Nemo.
nemo2000
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Wed May 13, 2009 1:56 pm
Hey Outlaw,
It’s very simple, R.L.S.H. is about the point I made above, not neccesarily about, how well you can fight, Repairing broken communities and reastablishing there internal cohesion is scientifically proven to be the most effective way of reducing crime in a given area.
I have been practicing martial arts since I was 7 years old, and have black belt in Aikido and currently hold an E5 Expert Level Military/Special Forces Instructor rating in Krav-Maga, so I think that qualifys me to know what I am talking about.
Also I am a former Diving and Clearance Officer – (1st Lt), in the British Royal Navy and saw active service in Iraq, Leading my unit alongside the S.B.S. on the initial push, so I truly know what it is like to be in combat and under fire, but I do not totally agree with your points of view.
R.L.S.H. is about public spirited individuals choosing to try and make a difference and doing the best they can, to help repair the community that they have come to care about, we should encourage support them not put them down, as long as what they are doing is legal and does not bring the Name of the R.L.S.H. community into disrepute.
Best Wishes ~ Nemo
Big Simon
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Wed May 13, 2009 2:50 pm

Outlaw wrote:
I’d also like to point out that everyone proposing violence as an absolute last resort do not enjoy their Batman movies because of how he gently talks criminals into peaceful resolutions.

Watching a scripted and choreographed fight on the big screen is a bit different than what happens in the real world. You’ve been in numerous fights, so you should know that. That said, you’re not too far off the mark: Once violence is in play, there’s little that will bring it to and end but equal force. I think what everyone else is talking about is peaceful resolution before violence comes into play.
Hunter
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Wed May 13, 2009 3:05 pm
Outlaw, I gave you a positive vote on your first post in this thread. Because while I also believe violence to be a last resort, I would totally be down for an RLSH fight club Smile
the visitor
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Wed May 13, 2009 8:36 pm
I agree with outlaw on this subject. I know we are trying to make the world a better place and the best way to do that is with peacfull actions. However, I would like to bring up an observtion. People who opose violence say that “we live in reality and violence wont solve anything”. Well they are right about living in reality, but if you take a look at both sides of that coin, ours is a violent reality. Their are two sides to everything and I believe strongly that violence will be a part of any RLSHs career at one time or another if they are doing crime prvention/patrolling and that you must be prepaired to meet that violence with your own less you risk your life or that of an innocent. You want to handle things peacfully, great, do it, just be prepaired to use violence if necacerry.
The Outcast
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Wed May 13, 2009 11:13 pm
I’m good to go when the time comes (if it has to). Only as much force as necessary though. I fought in MMA once and had a hard time hurting a guy that I didn’t dislike. But it also taught me that given a chance, a knuckle head will try to beat your brains in, so you better be ready to pound him first.
Sentinel
PostSubject: Re: Isn’t Good ‘Ol Fashioned Beat ’em Up Neccessary For You Guys? (In Dire Situations.) Sat May 16, 2009 6:52 am
I am a firm believer in using the only amount of force necessary to protect a victim, or myself. I did have a run in a while back with a man selling drugs, a very large man. I have been training in Ninjutsu for many years and as their rep preceeds them, we use whatever means necessary to complete the job.
I was new at being a crimefighter, but always very aware of my surroundings. I did confront the man who proceeded to walk away as I made enough of a scene to make him leave. Stupid me, I did turn my back, not completely, but he was VERY fast and put me in a chokehold that I could not break out of because of his sheer strenght, nor would my own help. I did struggle for air, and the only option I had to make him leg me go was to take out a throwing spike (spike shuriken) and impale it firmly into his forearm. He DID leg go, and swept his legs, and flexi cuffed him, and retrived my shuriken, called 911, and left the scene. Sometimes we have to use the weapons and gadgets we carry. Mine are for specific needs and situations, I never carry anything that is just for “looks” or to be “cool” as that is not my goal.